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Post Posted: March 28th, 2014, 12:59 pm 
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$175,000,000 - Cost to build
650,000 - Number of complete revolutions it was designed for.
1,120 - Maximum passengers per rotation
$30 - Initial ticket cost (price varying by time of day)

So let's assume for this post that the wheel will function at full capacity for the duration of those 650k rotations.

That would mean they'd be bringing in $33,600 ($30 * 1,120) per full rotation.

Over the life time of those 650k rotations, that's $21,840,000,000 in revenue.

Each rotation takes approximately 30 minutes to complete. IF the wheel was open 24 hours a day, that'd be 48 total rotations. It would take 37.1 years to reach that 650k rotations ([650,000 / 48] / 365).

Yes, that's a lot of "perfect world" assumptions, and doesn't take into account significant overhead, maintenance, slow seasons, inclement weather, price hikes, actual operating hours, etc.

Just found it interesting how much the wheel stands to return on its investment, assuming there's a lot of long term interest in it. I think they'll begin seeing a return on their investment in a very short amount of time.

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Post Posted: March 28th, 2014, 1:22 pm 
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I predict another failure; a boondoggle like the monorail.

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Post Posted: March 28th, 2014, 1:32 pm 
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I can't wait until some orgy breaks out in the thing or porn produced in it and shuts the whole wheel down. Once people are up in it -- I assume there is no stopping it or them.

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Post Posted: March 28th, 2014, 6:16 pm 
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It's a loss leader. They'll make their money off of renting individual pods outs for stuff like weddings as well as from beverage sales (If you want a drink with your ride, you have to buy it from the bars in the wheelhouse of the High Roller.). They're also expecting folks to spend money in the retail and dining outlets (Keeps the rent payments coming in.) as well as in the casinos at the Flamingo, O'Sheas and The Quad.

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Post Posted: March 30th, 2014, 8:08 pm 
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Is the 175MM just for the wheel or all of Linq? I am seeing a lot of folks hanging out around here

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Post Posted: March 31st, 2014, 6:19 pm 
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rog wrote:
Is the 175MM just for the wheel or all of Linq? I am seeing a lot of folks hanging out around here


The entire Linq project has a price tag of around $550 million, so $175 million of it was for the High Roller.

Using the London Eye as an example, it cost £70,000,000 to build in 1999-2000, which is equivalent to £102,858,000 in today's money. So using that figure and converting Pounds Sterling to Dollars, we get $171,474,583, so $175 million for the High Roller sounds about right.

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Post Posted: April 1st, 2014, 11:53 am 
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I think they'll see a return on investment in regards to the High Roller. I think they'll suffer some issues, but if the Strat or Eiffel Tower can charge $12-15 for someone to go up top of the tower, I can see $30 for the high roller being a decent price, especially. in a tourist destination it's not overly extreme.

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Post Posted: April 2nd, 2014, 7:17 am 
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Yesterday after brunch at Bouchon I had to go to MGM to pick up my Ka tix (thank you My Las. Vegas Slots) for last night's show. So instead of returning to the car which was at Mirage, I walked down to Harrah's to catch the monorail. The big wheel towers almost directly over that station. I watched them loading. If you're going to ride it be prepared for periods of no movement. The process seemed to go slowly. From an engineering point of view it is a very impressive structure.

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Post Posted: April 2nd, 2014, 12:34 pm 
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I don't recall it stopping during my ride.

Histo--does KA still have the video ending instead of that battle scene where the performer died?

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Post Posted: April 2nd, 2014, 3:20 pm 
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Yes. The characters are computer projected on the surface of the mobile stage while it is in the vertical position. Only the Wizard character at the very top is in the flesh.

Perhaps I didn't watch the High Roller long enough but I know I saw one pod move from the loading platform one length and halt while people entered the one behind it.

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Post Posted: April 2nd, 2014, 6:38 pm 
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According to what I've read, the wheel normally does not stop -- but it can be stopped if anyone needs extra time to board.

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Post Posted: April 4th, 2014, 10:02 pm 
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Yes. The characters are computer projected on the surface of the mobile stage while it is in the vertical position. Only the Wizard character at the very top is in the flesh.



Damn shame, both that a performer died, but also that the spectacle of that scene is gone. And I still see idiots talk about how they fell asleep during KA.

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Post Posted: April 5th, 2014, 2:10 am 
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I saw Mystere the next night. Good seats, good price, T4T.

First time for me. I always thought I wouldn't like it. It was fantastic!! The athleticism of those people is amazing.

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Post Posted: April 7th, 2014, 9:20 am 
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Yeah, we've seen Mystere twice, and it's an awesome show. KA is up there too. Neither is a snoozer.

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Post Posted: April 11th, 2014, 11:05 am 
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I found Ka fairly boring, and actually left before the end, I just never felt like I was experiencing any "wow" moments like I did while watching Love. (there was one scene, that was interesting in Ka) but it just didn't hold my interest.

It actually has me on the fence again about seeing another Cirque production.

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Post Posted: April 11th, 2014, 11:08 am 
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We have Mystere on our list. Still haven't made it there.

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Post Posted: April 11th, 2014, 1:02 pm 
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I feel the 'Wheel of Death' act is really Ka's real redeeming value. Some of the acrobatic work (still in) on the vertical stage is worthy as well.

Mystere is in a class of it's own though. For me it would be #1 with Love coming up close behind.

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Post Posted: April 12th, 2014, 12:37 am 
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I would put Love #1 for people of my generation (teenager during Beatlemania) but Mystere #1 for everyone else. I didn't think much of Ka.

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Post Posted: April 12th, 2014, 1:52 pm 
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Mystere was the first Cirque we saw and it did nothing for me. Yes I thought the acrobatics were great, but the whole show left me cold. We went on to see Love, O and the Elvis one that has since closed and I came to the conclusion that Cirque is not my thing.

We are going to see Love again next trip as we got it free with MyVegas. We could have seen Ka or Zarkana, but after reading people's opinions on those I thought I'd play it safe and see one I did enjoy a bit, probably due to the music.

Oops, we seem to have gone a bit off topic.

Back to the High Roller. I have no intention of booking in advance before we leave home. It is something that we will definitely consider when we are there, but I fear that it will be one of those things we don't actually get round to despite being there for 15 nights.

Question for Rog or anyone who has already rode the High Roller. Is the time you book the actual time you board and if so, how long before that do you need to turn up and queue / get in line?

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Post Posted: April 20th, 2014, 6:51 pm 
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Mystere was the first Cirque show I saw (on my first Vegas trip) and yes it was bloody amazing.

I saw Ka on a subsequent visit and I did find it a bit dull I'm afraid, and certainly not as good as Mystere. I think Mystere's secret is it combines the athletic stunt/circus stuff with some good audience interaction comedy stuff.

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